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Republicans Now CAVING To Proposed “Red Flag Laws” Designed To STRIP Your Second Amendment Rights

Second Amendment supporters, conservatives, and Trump backers are sounding warning alarms that Republicans in Congress, the party that has traditionally stood up for Americans’ right to keep and bear arms, are preparing to cave on demands from Left-wing Democrats to enact a federal “red-flag” law following the mass shootings in El Paso and Dayton.

 

“Senate Republicans are uniting around [Sen.] Lindsey Graham’s bill that would effectively end your 2A rights,” Ammoland noted in a Thursday post following reports that the South Carolina Republican had ‘struck a deal’ with Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) for a red flag bill POTUS Donald Trump’s own daughter, Ivanka, is pushing.

John Harris, the executive director of the Tennessee Firearms Association, wrote in December 2018 that while red flag laws were all the rage among blue states, they “could at some point be federal.” Boy, was he prophetic.

NewsTarget noted the same month: 

Red flag laws empower the state to label anyone as “dangerous” based solely on the recommendation of a friend, family member, or other acquaintance. The person being charged does not know they’ve been charged because they are absent from the court proceedings. Most often they only find out after police arrive at their place of residence, sometimes with guns drawn during pre-dawn raids, to confiscate their otherwise legally owned guns. 

Known as “Extreme Risk Protection Orders,” red flag laws are insulting to the Constitutionin a number of ways, writes Philip Van Cleave in a separate Ammoland piece. In addition to injuring the Second Amendment’s ‘infringement’ clause, red flag laws also violate the Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Amendments to the Constitution as well — depriving someone of their property without due process, while essentially finding them guilty of something without a trial and without ever being charged or convicted.

This is the legislation that a growing number of Republicans — and, perhaps, the president — are now supporting. (Related: Analysis: Are Republicans really set to cave on gun control and ‘red flag laws?’ Don’t be so sure.)

Red flag laws are a solution in search of a problem, adding ‘insult to injury’

Gun groups are lining up to oppose Republicans who support Graham’s bill, including the senator himself. 

“Gun Owners of America has already vowed to support a primary challenger to Lindsey Graham because he is introducing this bill,” the group said. “And we will take note of any and all Republicans who join him in shredding the Second Amendment.”

Groups are warning that it is impossible to overstate how dangerous this legislation could potentially be, not the least of which because it is ostensibly supported by Democrats but also because of the potential it will be abused and misused by Democrat officials to deprive as many people of their guns as possible, and again — without a constitutional amendment, without a trial, and without being convicted of any crime.

Only suspected of maybe wanting to commit a crime. Perhaps. At some point. Or maybe not.

Graham’s legislation is also sinister because it wouldn’t create a red flag law, per se, but rather fund a federal “bribe pot” of money to ‘encourage’ states to pass red flag laws — like states were ‘encouraged’ to pass “RealID” and ‘encouraged’ to pass a 55-mile-per-hour speed limit once upon a time and ‘encouraged’ to lower alcohol blood levels. The Feds ‘encourage’ state compliance by bribing them with funds, as Graham’s bill does, or depriving them of money needed to fix roads and highways and bridges (even though the state’s taxpayers contributed money for such upkeep and repairs).

“To add insult to injury, Lindsey Graham is downright lying to the American people when he says that this bill would recognize due process,” GOA says, noting that red flag laws, by their very nature, must violate due process because guns are removed from homes and from gun owners without trials, without evidence, and without a crime ever having been committed.

Congress is not currently in session, but we expect this bill to be waiting for lawmakers when they return from their summer recess.

Source: JD Heyes | Natural News

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Grassroots Conservatives Mount Revolt Against President Trump Over Red Flag Laws

Trump is losing his core base because of his support for gun control.

Grassroots conservatives are pushing back against President Donald Trump after he came out in favor of moar gun control in the wake of last weekend’s mass shootings in El Paso, TX and Dayton, OH.

“Trump supporters are extremely upset over @realDonaldTrump apparent support of red flag laws,” wrote Debbie Dooley, a board member for Tea Party Patriots, in a Twitter post.

“ANY Republican that supports Red Flag laws should [be] voted out of office. I won’t vote for them even @potus if he keeps pushing red flag laws,” she added.

Rick Manning, who is president of Americans for Limited Government, is joining Dooley in the revolt against President Trump for his support of red flag laws.

“I see Democrat presidential candidate after Democrat presidential candidate promising to ban and confiscate guns,” Manning wrote in his organization’s newsletter, the Daily Torch.

“And I see President Donald Trump supporting state red flag laws which will lay the groundwork for them to do it,” he added.

Sens. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) and Richard Blumenthal (D-CT) are leading the charge in the Senate, egged on by President Trump, to create legislation that would allow an individual to have their firearms seized by law enforcement if a judge determines they’re mentally disturbed. This precedent could be expanded by any Democrat or RINO in the future to encompass all conservatives.

“If the president of the United States himself is not safe from politically motivated abuse of the prosecutorial system, how can the average citizen trust that a law allowing legal, ‘temporary’ confiscation of firearms using ‘expedited due process’ won’t be abused by every risk-averse and politically motivated prosecutor in America?” Mr. Manning wrote.

“The left has sufficiently demonized anyone who supports Donald Trump that no legal ground can be ceded to give these loons of the left a lawful pathway to confiscate guns,” he added.

Regardless of the grassroots pressure, Trump seems undaunted in his push for gun control. He released the following tweet earlier today:

Trump may be jeopardizing his 2020 presidential chances with his push for gun control, as he loses his base doing the bidding of his enemies.

Source: by Shane Trejo | Big League Politics

Florida Launches Gun Confiscation Program, 467 Forced To Surrender Guns Thus Far

More than 467 people in Florida have been ordered by the government to surrender their firearms since March under a new law passed after the deadly Parkland shooting in February, according to a local ABC broadcaster.

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The Risk Protection Order, is a “Red Flag” law that Florida Gov. Rick Scott (R) signed several weeks after former student Nikolas Cruz killed 17 people at Stoneman Douglas High School in March, allows the local government to disarm the civilian population if a judge determines they are a threat to themselves or others.

Under the new law, state officials have the ability to file risk-protection petitions against irresponsible gun owners in court, which could result in local law enforcement stripping that individual of the second amendment.

Recently, Sgt. Jason Schmittendorf, who is employed by the Pinellas County Sheriff’s office, told ABC News that Tampa Bay officers have “taken in about 200 firearms and around 30,000 rounds of ammunition.”

“You’ve got an AK-47 style here and an AR-15 style there. We’ve got some rifles and a cache of handguns,” said Schmittendorf, who showed the ABC News team some of the weapons confiscated under the new law.

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/Seargant-2_1532725006680.jpg_93577732_ver1.0_640_480.jpg?itok=3ocb1N7gSgt. Jason Schmittendorf of Pinellas Counties Risk Protection Order Unit speaks with ABC reporter Katie LaGrone (Source/ ABC) 

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The Sheriff’s office has assembled a five-person team devoted to working only risk protection cases. Since March, the group has filed 64 risk protection petitions in court, the second highest number of cases in the state. Broward County leads with 88 risk protection petitions (as of early-July).

“It’s a constitutional right to bear arms and when you are asking the court to deprive somebody of that right we need to make sure we are making good decisions, right decisions and the circumstances warrant it,” explained Pinellas County Sheriff Bob Gualtieri when asked by ABC News why he decided to form an entire unit dedicated to upholding the new law.

To get more clarity on Sheriff Gualtieri’s thought process, he also happens to be the chairman of the Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School Public Safety Commission, a task force designed to prevent future school shootings.

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Since March, ABC has learned that the new law has had over 467 risk protection cases filed across the state (as of July 24th), according to the FL Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services (DOACS). DOACS is in charge of gun permitting in Florida and is informed when a petition is filed. An agency spokesperson told ABC that “over a quarter of risk protection cases filed so far involve concealed license firearm holders whose license temporarily is suspended once the order is granted.”

However, attorney Kendra Parris — who believes the new law could be disastrous — disagrees with the idea that state officials are making the right decisions. “I think we’re doing this because it makes us feel safer,” said Parris, in an interview with ABC. “What’s wrong with that,” asked reporter Katie LaGrone. “It violates the constitution,” responded Parris.

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/Attorney_1532725010901_93577740_ver1.0_640_480.jpg?itok=GQOO5oFVKendra Parris, Attorney, seen in an interview with reporter Katie LaGrone  (Source/ ABC)

After four-and-a-half months of the new law, Parris believes Florida’s version of the “Red Flag” law has revealed some important grey areas that need to be addressed: including state officials targeting citizens with risk-protection petitions who do not have histories of violence or mental illness.

“These are individuals who are often exercising their first amendment rights online, who are protecting constitutionally protected speech online,” she said. “Maybe it was odious, maybe people didn’t like it but they were hit with the risk protection order because of it,” she said.

Parris told ABC News that she represented University of Central Florida student, Chris Velasquez, who made national headlines in March when Orlando police filed a risk protection petition after he spoke highly of mass shooters on social media.

In another case, Parris describes, a minor, who said she wanted to kill people on social media.

Parris mentioned that in both cases, the individuals did not own guns and both won their court cases.

“The people whom I’ve represented fought back because they care about their future not because they cared about owning firearms,” she told ABC.

Parris suggested that the law needs to be redefined to only target citizens with proof of gun ownership or who have histories of attempting to purchase one. In addition, she said the law needs to have a better understanding of who is an “imminent” threat and who is a “threat.”

“As it’s written now the harm can be in 6 months or maybe in a year this person will go crazy, we don’t know but out of an abundance of caution we need to get this risk protection in place,” she said.

According to ABC News, Pinellas County has the majority of risk protection cases in the state and most involve people with mental illness.

With “Red Flag” Laws popping up across the country, it seems as the government’s plan to strip civilians of their firearms is already in motion.

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Source: ZeroHedge